I just listened to an hour long podcast with him and Bill Simmons. I was impressed with his insight and how candid he was. About 20 min in he talked about the program they asked him how whisky got those boys so big. Inferring PEDs and he said no way it was all you could eat bacon and 1$ PBRs at Wandos. Very good to hear him speaking out. Talked about a meditation study he took part of just recently at UW.